Is Allah the best of deceivers?

[AhmedBahgat]

Salam all

This post was too long that somehow is cauisng problems currently, i had to remove my whole comment from the DB then will try to divide it into 2 comments at the end of this thread.

The problem is a PHP stack error

Salam

[AhmedBahgat]

Salam all

This post was too long that somehow is cauisng problems currently, i had to remove my whole comment from the DB then will try to divide it into 2 comments at the end of this thread.

The problem is a PHP stack error

Salam

[SlaveofAllaah]

SAlam brother AB,

Great stuff bro, like it for a non-arab like who is trying to learn Arabic these things do help me out not much but atleast i can understand something.

[SlaveofAllaah]

SAlam brother AB,

Great stuff bro, like it for a non-arab like who is trying to learn Arabic these things do help me out not much but atleast i can understand something.

[AhmedBahgat]

[AhmedBahgat]

[BMZ]

Quite a lot of Muslims are unaware of Ali Sina, who claims to be an ex-Muslim and carries a fake name, while living in Canada, a safe place and no one has seen him or met him. He even claims to have a Ph.D. and is known as Dr. Ali Sina. I don't know how can a Western University grant Ph.D to a fake person, entitling himself to be called Dr. Ali Sina. The man does not know and does not understand Arabic at all. Here is a note to let all know how he twists and turns verses of Qur'aan after reading translations in English:

At the link, http://www.faithfreedom.org, Ali Sina wrote:

"Yep! We Were Hacked." He wrote something very laughable and coming from him, it sounds so ridiculous:

"We are particularly grateful to our companion in arms Mr. Robert Spencer for announcing in http://www.Jihadwatch.com that FFI has been hacked." (Bold emphasis is mine)

He goes on to say: "Muslims feel helpless and are aware of their inability to respond to our arguments. That is not because we are smarter or are more learned than them. The reason we are unbeatable is because we speak the truth. If you tell the truth, you can confront the entire world and win all the time."

And then comes the laughable from this man who does not even know and understand Arabic: "What do you expect of a people who worship none but the Khairul Makerin, the Best Deceiver, as their god?"

Ali Sina, who has been fooling the world, does not know that the famous Western translators in English have not at all translated what he claims. It sends a clear message to the world that Ali Sina is a fraud, supported by polemic evangelists and other Islam haters.

I suggest Ali Sina copies and pastes the verse on Khairul-Maakayreen, on his own site in caps, from all the English translations, quoting each Western and other translators for the world to see that he is the only one who fraudulently twisted and turned a verse of Qur'aan. If he is honest about his conviction, he should do this, close his site and go down and live in a Senile hole.

If Ali Sina thinks he is true, then I hope to see him discuss and clear this issue, which of course he cannot. His own attacks are making him weaker and I don't think he would dare post any translations that use the word "Deceiver". What is happening is that his attacks are not only making Muslims stronger but also are making his goons and other Westerners seriously think that the man Ali Sina is a liar and that he misquotes verses of Qur'aan purposely for his own agenda.

He talks about his last debate with one mujahid, whom, he calls a terrorist and writes:

Khairul Makerin:
The Best Deceiver
2007/09/04

By Ali Sina

There is a verse in the Quran that says �?????�????�???�??�?�¢??they deceived and Allah deceived and Allah is the best deceiver.�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�� (Q. 3:54)

Why would an all powerful God want to deceive, is something that only Muhammad can think of. Certainly, might and deception are oxymoronic. A God that resorts to deception, can't be almighty. The entire career of Muhammad was filled with deception, lies, manipulations and tricks. He even licensed his followers to malign him in order to win the trust of their victims and when they lower their guards assassinate them."

ROTFLMAO!

Let us extend this challenge to Ali Sina and ask him to explain and prove that the above verse means what he says.

Love is more beautiful than the hate that you are generating with your foul tactics, Ali Sina. Islam will be there for more than thirty years, in fact it will be there forever. It is you who will return to your Creator within the next thirty years. LOL! Anta lil-laahe wa anta ilaihay ra'ajay. Did you understand this Ali Sina?

BMZ

[BMZ]

Quite a lot of Muslims are unaware of Ali Sina, who claims to be an ex-Muslim and carries a fake name, while living in Canada, a safe place and no one has seen him or met him. He even claims to have a Ph.D. and is known as Dr. Ali Sina. I don't know how can a Western University grant Ph.D to a fake person, entitling himself to be called Dr. Ali Sina. The man does not know and does not understand Arabic at all. Here is a note to let all know how he twists and turns verses of Qur'aan after reading translations in English:

At the link, http://www.faithfreedom.org, Ali Sina wrote:

"Yep! We Were Hacked." He wrote something very laughable and coming from him, it sounds so ridiculous:

"We are particularly grateful to our companion in arms Mr. Robert Spencer for announcing in http://www.Jihadwatch.com that FFI has been hacked." (Bold emphasis is mine)

He goes on to say: "Muslims feel helpless and are aware of their inability to respond to our arguments. That is not because we are smarter or are more learned than them. The reason we are unbeatable is because we speak the truth. If you tell the truth, you can confront the entire world and win all the time."

And then comes the laughable from this man who does not even know and understand Arabic: "What do you expect of a people who worship none but the Khairul Makerin, the Best Deceiver, as their god?"

Ali Sina, who has been fooling the world, does not know that the famous Western translators in English have not at all translated what he claims. It sends a clear message to the world that Ali Sina is a fraud, supported by polemic evangelists and other Islam haters.

I suggest Ali Sina copies and pastes the verse on Khairul-Maakayreen, on his own site in caps, from all the English translations, quoting each Western and other translators for the world to see that he is the only one who fraudulently twisted and turned a verse of Qur'aan. If he is honest about his conviction, he should do this, close his site and go down and live in a Senile hole.

If Ali Sina thinks he is true, then I hope to see him discuss and clear this issue, which of course he cannot. His own attacks are making him weaker and I don't think he would dare post any translations that use the word "Deceiver". What is happening is that his attacks are not only making Muslims stronger but also are making his goons and other Westerners seriously think that the man Ali Sina is a liar and that he misquotes verses of Qur'aan purposely for his own agenda.

He talks about his last debate with one mujahid, whom, he calls a terrorist and writes:

Khairul Makerin:
The Best Deceiver
2007/09/04

By Ali Sina

There is a verse in the Quran that says �?????�????�???�??�?�¢??they deceived and Allah deceived and Allah is the best deceiver.�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�� (Q. 3:54)

Why would an all powerful God want to deceive, is something that only Muhammad can think of. Certainly, might and deception are oxymoronic. A God that resorts to deception, can't be almighty. The entire career of Muhammad was filled with deception, lies, manipulations and tricks. He even licensed his followers to malign him in order to win the trust of their victims and when they lower their guards assassinate them."

ROTFLMAO!

Let us extend this challenge to Ali Sina and ask him to explain and prove that the above verse means what he says.

Love is more beautiful than the hate that you are generating with your foul tactics, Ali Sina. Islam will be there for more than thirty years, in fact it will be there forever. It is you who will return to your Creator within the next thirty years. LOL! Anta lil-laahe wa anta ilaihay ra'ajay. Did you understand this Ali Sina?

BMZ

[AhmedBahgat]

Salam mate

I copied your comment to FFI web site, I hope the Ms wonlt delete it

Salam

[AhmedBahgat]

Salam mate

I copied your comment to FFI web site, I hope the Ms wonlt delete it

Salam

[BMZ]

[BMZ]

[AhmedBahgat]

Here we go bro:

would you be able to browse FFI through this thread:



Salam

[AhmedBahgat]

Here we go bro:

would you be able to browse FFI through this thread:



Salam

[SlaveofAllaah]

Damn its never possible for me it says its blocked.

[SlaveofAllaah]

Damn its never possible for me it says its blocked.

[AhmedBahgat]

[AhmedBahgat]

[BMZ]

[BMZ]

[AhmedBahgat]

[AhmedBahgat]

[AhmedBahgat]

Salam bro BMZ

here is a better solution man

I can raise a plea with the Ms in there to unban you (only if you agree for me to do so), I will also do it publically in the Talk the Ms sub forum

I will explain the situation to them and give them an assurance that whatever they think you did wrong won't happen again, what do you think?

I actually think it is a good idea because the Ms in there are very reasonable to be honest, in fact I believe they are the best Moderators I have seen so far on the net

Salam

[AhmedBahgat]

Salam bro BMZ

here is a better solution man

I can raise a plea with the Ms in there to unban you (only if you agree for me to do so), I will also do it publically in the Talk the Ms sub forum

I will explain the situation to them and give them an assurance that whatever they think you did wrong won't happen again, what do you think?

I actually think it is a good idea because the Ms in there are very reasonable to be honest, in fact I believe they are the best Moderators I have seen so far on the net

Salam

[SlaveofAllaah]

[SlaveofAllaah]

[AhmedBahgat]

[AhmedBahgat]

[BMZ]

[BMZ]